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		<title>By: Nanciful</title>
		<link>http://www.nanciful.com/2009/03/29/vegetarian-chinese-food-that-is-not-happy-family/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Nanciful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Will Thank you for this great comment!  I will definitely try Bean Sprouts in Arcadia, thanks for the rec. I don&#039;t mind eating vegan but the 全素 is difficult sometimes because there&#039;s garlic in everything. Then there&#039;s the no drinking while we are on 全素 and that just plain sucks! 

Agree that Gourmet Vegetarian is too ambitious but maybe the next foodie get together should be there. I think it will be an experience for ppl who haven&#039;t tried Chinese vegan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Will Thank you for this great comment!  I will definitely try Bean Sprouts in Arcadia, thanks for the rec. I don&#8217;t mind eating vegan but the 全素 is difficult sometimes because there&#8217;s garlic in everything. Then there&#8217;s the no drinking while we are on 全素 and that just plain sucks! </p>
<p>Agree that Gourmet Vegetarian is too ambitious but maybe the next foodie get together should be there. I think it will be an experience for ppl who haven&#8217;t tried Chinese vegan.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps - Some of the &quot;chicken&quot; may be gluten, but these days it&#039;s more frequently a processed fake meat made with soy, and often whey protein and other flavorings.

For the record, I have nothing against the concept of fake meat... however, I&#039;ve heard some good arguments that there&#039;s a big difference between stuff that people have been eating and making in traditional ways and eating safely for years (tofu, tempeh, seitan / wheat gluten) and food made from processed soy, which as I understand it is often made from the byproducts of (chemical) extraction of soybean oil. Also, the ingredients aren&#039;t always complete (especially the English language ingredients).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps &#8211; Some of the &#8220;chicken&#8221; may be gluten, but these days it&#8217;s more frequently a processed fake meat made with soy, and often whey protein and other flavorings.</p>
<p>For the record, I have nothing against the concept of fake meat&#8230; however, I&#8217;ve heard some good arguments that there&#8217;s a big difference between stuff that people have been eating and making in traditional ways and eating safely for years (tofu, tempeh, seitan / wheat gluten) and food made from processed soy, which as I understand it is often made from the byproducts of (chemical) extraction of soybean oil. Also, the ingredients aren&#8217;t always complete (especially the English language ingredients).</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wrote another version of this response and accidentally closed it... d&#039;oh. Nice to meet you guys at Jitlada the other night.

Anyway, I have been here a couple times, and I think it&#039;s Ok, but I don&#039;t think the food is better than the other veggie places in the LA area (though the atmosphere of the place is definitely nicer / fancier, and the staff is quite friendly). Also, the menu is really heavy on the fake meat, which I don&#039;t like, not only because I eat vegan-ish and a lot of that stuff contains some amount of egg or dairy, but also because I try not to eat too much processed food, not to mention the recent allegations of a lot of fake meat containing real meat:
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2009/06/15/212209/Half-of.htm). There are a few vegetable / tofu / seitan dishes on the menu, but not many.

Also, I think the menu at that place is a little too big... trying to do sushi, etc. in addition to Chinese food seems a bit overly ambitious. And their default soup usually has egg in it, which is problematic for me. I do like the kabocha porridge, though. I miss the place that used to be in that plaza maybe 8 years back (Veggie Delight, on the second floor, couple doors down from the plastic surgery place), as well as Ten In - somehow the places I like end up being the ones that close.

Have you been to Bean Sprouts in Arcadia? It&#039;s a Taiwanese place that&#039;s a little more contemporary in style than a lot of the other places around (though also pretty heavy on the fake meat). Some of the food is good IMO, and some is just so-so, but it&#039;s relatively easy to get to from my work, so it&#039;s one of those places I tend to go to multiple times a week. Some of the dishes (mapo tofu, curries) are awful, some are a little boring, but decent (dan dan mian, minced pork with pickled greens), and some are pretty good (house special noodle soup, veggie beef soup). I have always complained that for a place that advertises itself as a noodle place should have better noodles, but the good news is that the noodles they&#039;re using now are at least a little better than the ones they were using before.

BTW, if you specify 全素 at most non-veg SGV Chinese restaurants, I think they will understand what you mean (no onions / garlic / cilantro / 韭菜 etc), though of course mistakes do happen sometimes. I know, because I frequently *want* to get those things in my food, and restaurants are typically very confused.

Stay in touch... maybe we can get vegetarian food on one of your veg nights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wrote another version of this response and accidentally closed it&#8230; d&#8217;oh. Nice to meet you guys at Jitlada the other night.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have been here a couple times, and I think it&#8217;s Ok, but I don&#8217;t think the food is better than the other veggie places in the LA area (though the atmosphere of the place is definitely nicer / fancier, and the staff is quite friendly). Also, the menu is really heavy on the fake meat, which I don&#8217;t like, not only because I eat vegan-ish and a lot of that stuff contains some amount of egg or dairy, but also because I try not to eat too much processed food, not to mention the recent allegations of a lot of fake meat containing real meat:<br />
<a href="http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2009/06/15/212209/Half-of.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2009/06/15/212209/Half-of.htm</a>). There are a few vegetable / tofu / seitan dishes on the menu, but not many.</p>
<p>Also, I think the menu at that place is a little too big&#8230; trying to do sushi, etc. in addition to Chinese food seems a bit overly ambitious. And their default soup usually has egg in it, which is problematic for me. I do like the kabocha porridge, though. I miss the place that used to be in that plaza maybe 8 years back (Veggie Delight, on the second floor, couple doors down from the plastic surgery place), as well as Ten In &#8211; somehow the places I like end up being the ones that close.</p>
<p>Have you been to Bean Sprouts in Arcadia? It&#8217;s a Taiwanese place that&#8217;s a little more contemporary in style than a lot of the other places around (though also pretty heavy on the fake meat). Some of the food is good IMO, and some is just so-so, but it&#8217;s relatively easy to get to from my work, so it&#8217;s one of those places I tend to go to multiple times a week. Some of the dishes (mapo tofu, curries) are awful, some are a little boring, but decent (dan dan mian, minced pork with pickled greens), and some are pretty good (house special noodle soup, veggie beef soup). I have always complained that for a place that advertises itself as a noodle place should have better noodles, but the good news is that the noodles they&#8217;re using now are at least a little better than the ones they were using before.</p>
<p>BTW, if you specify 全素 at most non-veg SGV Chinese restaurants, I think they will understand what you mean (no onions / garlic / cilantro / 韭菜 etc), though of course mistakes do happen sometimes. I know, because I frequently *want* to get those things in my food, and restaurants are typically very confused.</p>
<p>Stay in touch&#8230; maybe we can get vegetarian food on one of your veg nights!</p>
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		<title>By: joanh</title>
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		<dc:creator>joanh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.. vegetarian sesame oil rice wine noodles!! :) my mom is vegetarian so we used to go to happy family ALL the time. i&#039;ll have to surprise her and see if she&#039;s heard of this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.. vegetarian sesame oil rice wine noodles!! <img src='http://www.nanciful.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  my mom is vegetarian so we used to go to happy family ALL the time. i&#8217;ll have to surprise her and see if she&#8217;s heard of this one</p>
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		<title>By: Nanciful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nanciful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Azat:  Let us take you here sometimes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Azat:  Let us take you here sometimes!</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But overall, it’s a good dish for people who are a little apprehensive to try the before mentioned items and great for kids because it’s really just a normal dish you can get at a Hong Kong style cafe.&quot;

I guess I&#039;m still a kid at heart! :) Love the noodles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But overall, it’s a good dish for people who are a little apprehensive to try the before mentioned items and great for kids because it’s really just a normal dish you can get at a Hong Kong style cafe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m still a kid at heart! <img src='http://www.nanciful.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Love the noodles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Azat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This place looks really great Nancy.

Im glad you found the camera too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This place looks really great Nancy.</p>
<p>Im glad you found the camera too</p>
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